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Wednesday, January 20, 2010

Preliminary results

Note: My original post included just the Pens, Flyers, and Red Wings. I will just make additions as I go along and post a comment about additions

Ok. I have gone through the schedule of 3 NHL teams (Penguins, Flyers, and Red Wings), and have compiled some rudimentary stats.

Times team plays opponent coming off game on previous night (did not count if both teams played previous night):

Penguins-19
Flyers-14
Red Wings-15
Blackhawks-12

Times team plays at home vs. opponent coming off a road game on previous night (only if team had off previous night):

Penguins-5
Flyers-6
Red Wings-7
Blackhawks-4

Time team plays consecutive nights:

Penguins-10 (Oct-4, Nov-1, Jan-2, Mar-2, Apr-1)
Flyers-14 (Oct-2, Nov-3, Dec-3, Jan-2, Feb-1, Mar-2, Apr-1)
Red Wings- 12 (Nov-3, Dec-3, Jan-2, Feb-1, Mar-2, Apr-1)
Blackhawks- 18 (Oct-2, Nov-3, Dec-3, Jan-3, Feb-2, Mar-4, Apr-1)

So not only do the Pens play back-to-back on fewer occasions than the Flyers and Red Wings, but a huge chunk of their consecutive game came in October when the players have fresh legs.

I assigned these things point values (somewhat random). I also factored in where both teams play consecutively whereas I did not count in previous categories:

Opponent plays two consecutive road games: +2
Opponent plays two consecutive games (away-home, home-away, home-home): +1
Team plays two consecutive road games: -2
Team plays two consecutive games (away-home, home-away, home-home): -1

Penguins: +10
Flyers: +1
Red Wings: +13
Blackhawks: Even

I think reader "I Heart Pat" is attempting to find correlations between teams that share buildings. So far, Flyers (Sixers) and Blackhawks (Bulls) appear to be in the same boat.
Small sample size, but that looks pretty lopsided.

7 comments:

I heart PAT said...

Check the Bruins or Blackhawks

Scott Graham said...

Blackhawks have been added

Scott Graham said...

I think it's comedic that in the span of 9 days (Jan 2nd & 3rd and Jan 9th & 10th)that the Blackhawks play the Ducks at home twice. Both times the Ducks and Blackhawks were coming off away games and traveling to Chicago for the next night's game.

dwayne "whatever" said...

obviously we're looking at a small sample size but i'm interested to see stats showing that back to back games are detrimental. in theory, back to back games would are the worst but for all i know playing on 3 days rest could be even worst.

and unless we look at every team, i think it's hard to say that the penguins were given some sort of advantage. that kills me to say because i hate the pens.

again, i get the small sample size.

dwayne "whatever" edited said...

obviously we're looking at a small sample size but i'm interested to see stats showing that back to back games are detrimental. in theory, back to back games are the worst but for all i know playing on 3 days rest could be even worse.

and unless we look at every team, i think it's hard to say that the penguins were given some sort of advantage. that kills me to say because i hate the pens.

again, i get the small sample size.

Scott Graham said...

While I get your point, I don't think you could argue that a team with 3 days off has it harder than a team that played away in Dallas one night, then had to catch a flight around midnight to Chicago for a game the following night (Red Wings on Dec 19 & 20. Note: Red Wings were shut out 3-0 by the Blackhawks).

Often we hear announcers talking about a team having a hard time finding "its skating legs" after a period of time off. I think this is just the "old hockey man" talk.

I am looking into this stuff as you do make a valid point. However, I think strength of opponent and duration of flight would be important factors to look into. I don't think you can honestly tell me that all other things being equal, that you might think a team playing in two different cities on consecutive nights would be at an advantage over a team that has off for 3 days. I also don't think with this being an Olympic year that many teams have 3 days off (a game on the fourth day) too often. The Flyers did in the first month of the year, but I just don't see it happening as the teams I have already looked up average about 13-16 games/month

Anonymous said...

flyers played the pens TWICE where the pens had 2 full days of rest, while the flyers were off a back-to-back.
(in december the flyers had a stretch of 5 games in 8 nights, then played Pittsburgh to make it 6/9... meanwhile the pens 4th game over the stretch, having 2 full days to prepare). Flyers lost 6-1.

the pens played their 4th game over the last 9 going into this sundays win over the flyers. Meanwhile we had 5, and were once again working off the back-to-back