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Saturday, December 5, 2009

Weird hockey rules

Dan Carcillo just racked up a LOT of penalty minutes (2 minors, 1 major, 1 - 10 minute misconduct, and 1 game misconduct). Along with some questionable calls (the Capital dropped his gloves and didn't get a penalty). Anyway, it sent me to the rulebook to look up some things. I came across this beauty.

47.11 Instigator - An instigator of an altercation shall be a player or goalkeeper who by his actions or demeanor demonstrates any/some of the following criteria: distance traveled; gloves off first; first punch thrown; menacing attitude or posture; verbal instigation or threats; conduct in retaliation to a prior game (or season) incident; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season.....

This rule is ridiculous. By this definition, every fight will have an instigator. I don't think I have ever seen gloves off at exactly the same moment in time, both players throw a punch at the exact same time, or cowering attitude/posture. Someone must always drop the gloves first, and someone probably asks something along the lines of, "you wanna go?" before every fight due to the penalty of forcing a fight (not making sure it is mutual).

Also, this one:

47.6 Face Protection - If a player penalized as an instigator of an altercation is wearing a face shield (including a goalkeeper), he shall be assessed an additional unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.

Should the player (including a goalkeeper) who instigates the fight be wearing a face shield, but removes it before instigating the altercation, the additional unsportsmanlike conduct penalty shall not apply.

So while the league is interested in protecting players, they coerce you into getting more penalty minutes if you wear a visor.

P.S. I miss John Stevens


Anonymous said...

So Carcillo got a fighting penalty for fighting himself?

Scott Graham said...

listen to JJ's commentary.. "Oh, hedecks em. Yes, it's one word now.

After watching this video like 14 times, I have now noticed that the linesman, whose responsibility it is to break up fights, was at a full stop as he reaches in after Carcillo knocked him out. He clearly thought a fight was occurring, and he deemed it okay to proceed. I've seen officials jump in preemptively to stop a fight from starting. He let this happen. You can't punish Carcillo excessively for that.

Anonymous said...

How obvious can the NHL make it that they hate the flyers. The guy dropped his gloves to fight, got knocked out, and Carcillo is suspended 4 games. I don't get how the NHL changed a rule to not suspend Walker last year, but Carcillo gets 4 games. Unreal. F*CK the NHL.

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